EMILY POST - VS - BOB MURRAY
I realize that I'm a southern girl, and by being a southern girl, my ways may not be your ways. (considering the fact that Illinois is not generally known as a southern state.)
I also realize that Bob Murray is a name that's been known around the broadcasting world of central Illinois for years...
But let me tell you -- the man needs a lesson in good old-fashioned manners.
I had the pleasure of joining several media types for lunch today to hear the Mayor and other city government types explain why the "temporary" sales tax should remain permanent. We were gathered in a back room away from the general lunch-dining crowd. Jim Leach and I arrived a little late because, well, I'm on the air until noon. Luncheon started at noon.
Upon entering the room, most were already seated and had already ordered. NO PROBLEM. There were a few seats available and I went for the seat that was opened next to Mr. Bob Murray. My big behind (and yes, I know it's big) was halfway down when Mr. Murray said "Move over there, I want to sit next to Jim Leach." I kinda laughed, as did a few other people and proceeded to continue to sit down. "No, go ahead and move over there, I want to sit next to Jim Leach." Mind you, he didn't stand to say that...He didn't really even acknowledge that another lady had entered the room (Abby from WCFN and another from NPR were there already), and probably most importantly he never even uttered the word PLEASE.
Now by this time the entire room is looking at me. What's a girl to do? So I got up, got my stuff, smiled real big and said "Sure thing - not that you're rude or anything." The room kinda laughed uncomfortably.
What happened to being a gentleman? Where I come from a gentleman stands when a lady enters a room. Where I come from a gentleman pulls out the chair for a lady. And where I come from a gentleman certainly doesn't make a spectacle of the fact that he's not happy with the seating arrangements and asks the lady to move.
If it was such an issue, and his desire was so great to sit next to the incomparable Jim Leach, then the gentlemanly thing to do was to get up and move to an empty seat next to Leach.
I'm here to say today BOB MURRAY, he's no gentleman. Maybe an excerpt from Emily Post on the proper etiquette when a lady enters the room will help Mr. Murray the next time I have the pleasure of making his acquaintance.
A gentleman always rises when a lady comes into a room. In public places men do not jump up for every strange woman who happens to approach. But if any woman addresses a remark to him, a gentleman at once rises to his feet as he answers her. In a restaurant, when a lady bows to him, a gentleman merely makes the gesture of rising by getting up half way from his chair and at the same time bowing. Then he sits down again.
I also realize that Bob Murray is a name that's been known around the broadcasting world of central Illinois for years...
But let me tell you -- the man needs a lesson in good old-fashioned manners.
I had the pleasure of joining several media types for lunch today to hear the Mayor and other city government types explain why the "temporary" sales tax should remain permanent. We were gathered in a back room away from the general lunch-dining crowd. Jim Leach and I arrived a little late because, well, I'm on the air until noon. Luncheon started at noon.
Upon entering the room, most were already seated and had already ordered. NO PROBLEM. There were a few seats available and I went for the seat that was opened next to Mr. Bob Murray. My big behind (and yes, I know it's big) was halfway down when Mr. Murray said "Move over there, I want to sit next to Jim Leach." I kinda laughed, as did a few other people and proceeded to continue to sit down. "No, go ahead and move over there, I want to sit next to Jim Leach." Mind you, he didn't stand to say that...He didn't really even acknowledge that another lady had entered the room (Abby from WCFN and another from NPR were there already), and probably most importantly he never even uttered the word PLEASE.
Now by this time the entire room is looking at me. What's a girl to do? So I got up, got my stuff, smiled real big and said "Sure thing - not that you're rude or anything." The room kinda laughed uncomfortably.
What happened to being a gentleman? Where I come from a gentleman stands when a lady enters a room. Where I come from a gentleman pulls out the chair for a lady. And where I come from a gentleman certainly doesn't make a spectacle of the fact that he's not happy with the seating arrangements and asks the lady to move.
If it was such an issue, and his desire was so great to sit next to the incomparable Jim Leach, then the gentlemanly thing to do was to get up and move to an empty seat next to Leach.
I'm here to say today BOB MURRAY, he's no gentleman. Maybe an excerpt from Emily Post on the proper etiquette when a lady enters the room will help Mr. Murray the next time I have the pleasure of making his acquaintance.
A gentleman always rises when a lady comes into a room. In public places men do not jump up for every strange woman who happens to approach. But if any woman addresses a remark to him, a gentleman at once rises to his feet as he answers her. In a restaurant, when a lady bows to him, a gentleman merely makes the gesture of rising by getting up half way from his chair and at the same time bowing. Then he sits down again.
posted by Pamela Furr at
8:00 PM
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I don't agree with you very often, but yes Bob Murray was/is rude. If you was around to hear on the WMAY, you has always been rude with a bit of I'm better than you attitude. Which I cannot stand.
There are alot of rude people around here, I am always make comments about people being rude and that is how we don't act to my daughter. When she was 6, she said something funny to the man in front of us in the store checkout and he just gave her a dirty look. She then looked him straight in the face and "How Rude"!!!
It was the funniest thing and I just looked at him and said to her, yes dear, that's was rude and we don't act like that.
I'd have to say she got it from me, I'll be the first the tell someone that they are being rude stranger or not.
I absolutely have to agree with Pamela on this one. Even if people disagree with her opinion men should acknowledge when a woman they know enters the room by at least attempting to rise from their chair, I would think most would be hard-pressed to disagree with her position that Mr. Murray's comments toward her were blatantly rude.
Furthermore, I believe everyone should be treated equally and with a certain amount of consideration. Personally, if my husband takes the time to hold doors for me, pull out my chair at a restaurant, open the car door, etc., it makes me feel good. As Pamela would say, I feel "like a lady." By the same token, I also make an effort to show respect and courtesy toward others by doing things such as holding doors.
I feel there's nothing wrong with showing some "old-fashioned" manners, whether you are a man or a woman.
Hahaha -
Having not lived here for the past 9 years, I was shocked and appalled to find out that he was still on the air.
LMAO.
And how you all know he said what Pam is accusing him of? I don't think Bob is that bad of a guy. Pam you can be pushy sometimes yourself.
Can't recall if I posted here or on Jim's blog, but I did say that I would call Bob and I did. All of you people that are prejudging Bob ought to hear the other side of the story as I did.
I find Pam to be rude on air - must be something you all learn in the classroom in "Rude 101".
Your version of the story is by no means what Bob told me - but we can all hear something different sitting in the room at the same time.
I bet this gets deleted too!
Why would it get deleted, Anon? Only posts that use horrible language or slander people get deleted.
I'm not sure what Bob told you, but you can ask Jim what happened (who has said on the air that Bob could have been a lot nicer), you can ask Abby from WCFN (she was sitting next to me), you can ask Ernie Slotagg (he was there) you can ask folks from WAND who were there as well. There's a whole host who were there and who will back up my version.
So, I don't know what your obsession is with is. I thought the subject was closed.
If you think I'm rude on the air, then DON'T LISTEN. I'm sure Bob's show is much more palatable to your ear. (yawn)
Just read this for the first time, more than two months after it happened, yes, I'm old and too much behind the times.
Being old, I can say that Old Bob Murray is a dinosaur, on the air, and now off the air too.
I shouldn't be suprised, he works at WTAX, which is as inspiring as a Lieutenant Govenor's office.
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